{"id":26401,"date":"2023-10-03T20:21:10","date_gmt":"2023-10-03T20:21:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/direc.dk\/direc-interview-professor-henrik-christensen-om-udviklingen-inden-for-robotteknologi\/"},"modified":"2024-12-13T14:58:52","modified_gmt":"2024-12-13T14:58:52","slug":"direc-interview-professor-henrik-christensen-om-udviklingen-inden-for-robotteknologi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/direc.dk\/da\/direc-interview-professor-henrik-christensen-om-udviklingen-inden-for-robotteknologi\/","title":{"rendered":"DIREC Interview: Professor Henrik Christensen om udviklingen inden for robotteknologi"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"26401\" class=\"elementor elementor-26401 elementor-26389\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-26b8fac 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2023<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-3f874db6 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"3f874db6\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_list&quot;:[]}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-61f2e22\" data-id=\"61f2e22\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-541f13de animated-fast elementor-invisible 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Vi m\u00f8dte den verdenskendte robotekspert til en snak om dansk techforskning versus amerikansk og svensk \u2013 og om robotteknologiens n\u00e6ste store landvindinger.<\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-42021432 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"42021432\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_list&quot;:[]}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-131a0dc8\" data-id=\"131a0dc8\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-91485b1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"91485b1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1081\" src=\"https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen.jpg\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-26397\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen-1024x577.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen-1536x865.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/direc.dk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/10\/HenrikChristenen-1200x676.jpg 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section data-particle_enable=\"false\" data-particle-mobile-disabled=\"false\" class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-850b7fe elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"850b7fe\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;jet_parallax_layout_list&quot;:[]}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-2e8a278\" data-id=\"2e8a278\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fdfd72a elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"fdfd72a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;fadeIn&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tHan begyndte karrieren som forsker ved Aalborg Universitet, siden blev han hentet til Stockholm som leder af Centrum for Autonoma Systemer, Kungl Tekniska H\u014dgskolan. \r\n\u00a0\r\nKarrieren f\u00f8rte ham videre til USA, hvor Henrik Christensen har udfyldt flere fremtr\u00e6dende roller hos verdensledende universiteter \u2013 i dag er han forsker og leder af Contexual Robotics Institute ved University of California San Diego og ved siden af er han besk\u00e6ftiget som iv\u00e6rks\u00e6tter og investor.\r\n\u00a0\r\nFor nylig g\u00e6stede han Aarhus i anledning af Robotfestivallen \u2019Vilde Robotter\u2019, hvor han var inviteret med som keynote, og vi fangede ham til en snak om robotteknologiens udvikling og perspektiverne i at anvende robotteknologi i bl.a. sundheds- og plejesektoren og i den gr\u00f8nne omstilling. \r\n\u00a0\r\nAllerf\u00f8rst fik vi hans bud p\u00e5 de forskelle, som pr\u00e6ger forskningsmilj\u00f8er i Danmark, Sverige og USA \u2013 og hvordan Danmark kan st\u00e5 st\u00e6rkere p\u00e5 den internationale forskningsscene.\r\n\u00a0\r\n<strong><em>Hvad er den st\u00f8rste forskel p\u00e5 at bedrive tech-forskning i Danmark og udlandet \u2013 og hvad kan vi l\u00e6re af amerikanerne og svenskerne?<\/em><\/strong>\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dI USA er al forskning ekstremt resultatfokuseret. Du skal v\u00e6re knivskarp p\u00e5, hvilken impact dit forskningsprojekt har, og du skal s\u00f8rge for at publicere resultaterne i de mest anerkendte tidsskrifter, s\u00e5 impact bliver st\u00f8rst mulig. Fokus er konstant p\u00e5, hvordan dit projekt kan g\u00f8re en forskel, og hvor din forskning f\u00e5r st\u00f8rst impact. Mainstreamforskning er uinteressant i USA.\u201d\r\n\u00a0\r\nI Sverige har man lang tradition for akademiske forskningsmilj\u00f8er, og det er i h\u00f8j grad \u00e9t universitet, som s\u00e6tter dagsordenen for den samlede tech-forskning, fort\u00e6ller han.\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dThe Royal Academy of Science dominerer tech-forskningen i Sverige. Hvor vi i Danmark har tradition for, at det er det enkelte universitet, som individuelt definerer sine prioriteringer, har vi mindre fokus p\u00e5 det store billede. I Danmark er vi gode til at sikre, at vi laver forskning, som er relevant for industrien p\u00e5 den lange bane, til geng\u00e6ld er vi mindre fokuseret p\u00e5 den langsigtede strategiske impact af tech-forskning.\u201d\r\n\u00a0\r\n<strong><em>Handler det om, at man t\u00e6nker st\u00f8rre, hvis man har et stort budget og fx er et universitet som Berkeley? Betyder det noget for forskningen, om du f\u00e5r en stor eller lille pose penge at forske for?<\/em><\/strong>\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dSelvf\u00f8lgelig. Jeg er meddirekt\u00f8r i et stort AI og automation -institut med et budget p\u00e5 25 mio. dollars. Der er ikke ret mange steder i Danmark, som har et budget i den st\u00f8rrelse \u2013 og det er bare \u00e9t af 25 centre i USA, s\u00e5 det er mange penge, vi taler om, og endnu st\u00f8rre er forskningsbudgettet, hvis vi tager forsvarsindustrien med.\u201d\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dMit indtryk er, at i Danmark er den overordnede forskningsstrategi mindre tydelig. I Sverige har man virksomheder som Saab, Volvo, Ericsson og alle medicinalvirksomhederne, som tager sig af industriforskningen, og s\u00e5 overlader man den langsigtede strategiske forskning til universiteterne. Virksomhederne st\u00f8tter universiteterne \u00f8konomisk, men kravet er, at universiteterne t\u00e6nker stort og langsigtet. Min fornemmelse er, at Danmark ikke har det samme strategiske fokus som USA og Sverige. Vi har Novo Nordisk og LEGO og f\u00e5 andre helt tunge virksomheder, men sammenlignet med USA er det ikke mange. Derfor er der ikke det samme pres fra industrien til at p\u00e5virke den overordnede forskningsstrategi, eller v\u00e6re med til at beslutte, hvem der tager sig af hvad.\u201d \r\n\u00a0\r\nSom professor og leder af Contexual Robotics Institute har Henrik Christensen fingeren p\u00e5 det seneste nye inden for robotforskning \u00ad\u2013 det g\u00e6lder fx udviklingen af autonome robotter, der integrerer avanceret kunstig intelligens og sensorik og anvendes inden for industrien, sundhedssektoren og i samfundet som helhed.\r\n\u00a0\r\n<em><strong>Set fra din stol \u2013 hvad er robotforskere lige nu mest optaget af, og hvilke store gennembrud har skubbet forskningen fremad?<\/strong><\/em>\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dVi ser en k\u00e6mpe udvikling inden for materialeforskning og nano. Nu er det muligt at skabe en h\u00e5nd, som kan f\u00f8le ved hj\u00e6lp af sensorer, og vi kan integrere 3D-print og materialer. Det har gjort os i stand til at skabe meget mere legemliggjorte robotter, som vi aldrig tidligere havde forestillet os, at vi ville kunne skabe.\u201d\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dVi har gjort store fremskridt p\u00e5 sensorer. Har du brug for at integrere fem kameraer p\u00e5 en robot, er det ikke noget problem, og samtidig har vi en enorm computerpower. Sensorer, computerpower, AI, deep learning og sprogbaserede modeller har fuldst\u00e6ndig revolutioneret tech-forskningen. Vi arbejder med datas\u00e6t i en st\u00f8rrelse, vi aldrig havde forestillet os.\u201d\r\n\u00a0\r\n<strong><em>Hvad er det for en viden, vi mangler, for at robotter for alvor kan g\u00f8re en forskel, f.eks. i sundheds- og \u00e6ldreplejen?<\/em><\/strong>\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dJeg tror, det handler meget om, at vi hidtil har l\u00f8st de \u201dlette problemer\u201d. Vi kan lave bedre m\u00f8nsteralgoritmer, adf\u00e6rdsanalyser, og vi kan forudsige, hvor folk vil v\u00e6re om 50 sekunder, s\u00e5 hvis de er set i hallen, kan robotten navigere uden om. Men de virkelige opbyggelige, brugbare userinterfaces er sv\u00e6rere, og vi overlader dem typisk til en computer science-professor.\u201d \r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dDataloger er gode til nogen ting, men vi har svagheder og blinde vinkler, n\u00e5r det kommer til verden og mennesker. Det er en begr\u00e6nsning. Vi skal have hj\u00e6lp til at bygge meget mere brugbare modeller, og det kr\u00e6ver, at vi inddrager andre fagdiscipliner, hvis robotter skal v\u00e6re en mere almindelig del af hverdagen i f.eks. sundheds- og plejesektoren. Vi skal i meget h\u00f8jere grad inddrage personer, som har en mere praktisk tilgang til forskning og forst\u00e5r sig p\u00e5 kognitiv adf\u00e6rd, interaktionsm\u00f8nstre osv.\u201d \r\n\u00a0\r\n<strong><em>Vi har talt om specifikke teknologier som har fart p\u00e5, is\u00e6r AI og robotteknologi \u2013 hvilke tendenser vil du pege p\u00e5 som s\u00e6rligt interessante for nutidens techiv\u00e6rks\u00e6ttere?<\/em><\/strong>\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dSom techiv\u00e6rks\u00e6tter skal man v\u00e6re opm\u00e6rksom p\u00e5, at det tager meget l\u00e6ngere tid at arbejde med og skaffe investeringer til robotteknologiske virksomheder end til virksomheder, som baserer sig p\u00e5 AI. Robotteknologi involverer hardware og tager typisk lang tid at udvikle. Skal jeg pege p\u00e5 s\u00e6rligt interessante omr\u00e5der inden for robotteknologi vil det v\u00e6re robotkontrollerede lemmer og cyber-fysiske systemer \u2013 alts\u00e5 komplekse systemer, som integrerer computere, netv\u00e6rk og fysiske komponenter for at overv\u00e5ge og kontrollere fysiske processer.\u201d\r\n\u00a0\r\n\u201dGeografisk er det sv\u00e6rere at skaffe venturekapital i Europa end i USA. I USA er der hundredvis af venture firmaer, som st\u00e5r klar med risikovillig kapital, hvor tilgangen i Europa er mere forsigtig. 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